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What should Tom pay 4 the "dead rapper" Murcie

Discussion in 'Lamborghini Discussion (not model specific)' started by Tomf-1, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2004
    1,230
    Leawood KS/ South FL
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    Thomas P
    you guys got me pretty curious.

    OK.....let's say even after knowing the full story, i am still interested in the "dead rapper" murcie.

    1-what is a "reasonable offer" i should make on a car with this sort of twisted history?
    2-what will it be worth in about 2 to 3 months when i get bored and want to trade it out?

    seriously, guys. "help me "PRICED-DISCOVER".

    ps: i already know ben will pay less than 75k for it... :)
     
  2. whart

    whart Formula 3
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    This is like a bad joke.
     
  3. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2004
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    mr. whart,
    my interested in a yellow murcie is dead serious.

    regards,
     
  4. whart

    whart Formula 3
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    Well, i think you are in a strong negotiating position:

    *first, did they disclose this fact in their offer?

    *will they disclose it to other interested parties?

    *what steps were taken to ensure that the corpse did not leave
    residue of some sort in the vehicle?

    *Have they obtained appropriate certifications from the necessary authorities to ensure that the above was taken care of, in accordance with applicable law?

    Those are sort of preliminary due diligence questions to set the stage for a negotiation.
     
  5. whart

    whart Formula 3
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    I can also see this leading to additional regulation of disclosures, ie all future exotics must contain a disclaimer with their offer for sale, to the effect that :

    NO DEAD RAPPERS STORED OR PRESENTED IN VEHICLE AT ANY TIME
     
  6. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2004
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    seriously....was he actually shot and killed in this car or did they put him in it during the funeral wake?

    ps: i truly don't know since i was out of the country at that time (no pricing has been negotiated since discussion was very preliminary late sat. afternoon.
     
  7. whart

    whart Formula 3
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    I Don't think he died in the car, but i'm not sure.
     
  8. quickysrt

    quickysrt Rookie

    Nov 17, 2004
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    virginia beach, va
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    which rapper is this?
     
  9. MurcieMurcie

    MurcieMurcie Formula 3

    Jan 31, 2004
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    What did Prestige say when you told them the history on the car? Crooked guys over there who might try and deny that it is the car with the death history.
     
  10. Juice It

    Juice It Formula Junior

    Sep 22, 2002
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    Maryland (DC Suburb)
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    Jeff
  11. bentasm1

    bentasm1 Formula Junior

    Jun 7, 2004
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    Tom,

    If I wanted this car...... I would pay no more than $150k for it -- if I wanted it, which I don't. At that price it is discounting its extremely ****ed up history, which is the biggest factor.

    What would someone else pay for it? That's what you should consider since you flip cars so often. What will someone pay for it in a year? Are you going to be the high bidder so to say?

    -Ben
     
  12. bentasm1

    bentasm1 Formula Junior

    Jun 7, 2004
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    Also, this car has been for sale for 4-6 months. People are NOT buying it for a reason. What price will make your resale later help the car move in under 30 days?

    -Ben
     
  13. Jay

    Jay Karting
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    Nov 13, 2003
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    Charlotte
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    Jay
    I'd be more worried about any damage done to the VT system by those big ass wheels than the dead guy. I seriously doubt they got the wheel sizing right having 19" fronts and 20" rears. The only yellow on the interior of the car is on the seats and that can be changed relativly easy. Most of the miles that are on it are from the various low food chain dealers and brokers who've had this car so I would question the clutch and wonder just how hard it's been beat on.

    I tried scoopig this car about 3 owners ago but they did not want to deal and tried to hide the casket factor even after I sent them the newspaper photo.

    75-80k is max I would pay for it.
     
  14. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2004
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    that explains the confusion because i was working w/ steve at prestige miami....
     
  15. Z0RR0

    Z0RR0 Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2004
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    If you were to keep the car for a lifetime, for a private collection, I'd say 200k, for the creepy story and McDonalds interior.

    Considering you will keep it at best what? 3? 4months? I'd just steer clear of it. The interior will make a bunch of people turn away from that car, and the creepy story will make even more people turn away. Basically, you may spend ages trying to sell it ... at a greater loss for you.
     
  16. bentasm1

    bentasm1 Formula Junior

    Jun 7, 2004
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    If the tires are the same size as the factory ones it's no problem. If they are not, and are more than 6% different in size, then there will be damage to the viscous coupling, which is about a $15,000 repair.

    Do note that even my Orange 6.0 is about 11% out of size, and it does not have viscous coupling damage. I intend to keep it the way it is, except make the car 2WD which is nothing more than disconnecting the driveshaft. Simple to do. By doing this, you can run any size tires and rims you like. Chances are, the car may already be 2WD, the only way to know is to look at its from under a lift.

    You'll know if you have viscous coupling damage because you wont feel any power when driving, or if you keep hearing rap ghost music in the background from some dead dude. ;)

    -Ben
     
  17. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2004
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    that's it.....
    you guys make me want to trade this car out....even before i buy it!!!
     
  18. DodgeViper01

    DodgeViper01 Formula Junior

    Oct 1, 2003
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    Now is the dealer disclosing this information? I doubt it.
     
  19. writerguy

    writerguy Formula Junior

    Sep 30, 2003
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    Tom

    dead Rapper or not the McDonald's color scheme is a wee bit over the top no?
     
  20. MarkPDX

    MarkPDX Rookie
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    Apr 21, 2003
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    This has got to be the December thread of the month.
     
  21. 9software

    9software Rookie

    Mar 31, 2004
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    Hampton Roads, VA
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    Shawn
    I just happened to run by this thread...I saw that car in person. Prestige tried to run it at Manheim auction 2 weeks ago and it actually brought $200k and they no-saled it - they wanted $205k. I'm not sure if any of the dealers knew about the dead wrapper thing...I sure didn't. Crazy color scheme - I bet the driver didn't know a dead wrapper had sat in it =) But anyways, if they can get $200k at Manheim they probably won't cut it loose for anything less - this is the worst time of year to wholesale any exotic and that same car should bring more in the spring if they took it back up to auction.
    Just thought that info might help...
     
  22. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2004
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    ben,

    with all due respect to the dead and his family but can i see a picture of that "rapper" dead body sitting in that seat again?

    is everyone sure he was shot and killed in the barbershop and not while sitting in this car, yes? if that's the case, i am gonna throw a bid out tomorrow and see what sort of response i can get.

    btw, i m leaving for asia in jan for two months for biz. can i get a backer on this car say two months from now when i get rid of it?....anybody? anyone?.....
     
  23. Greg G

    Greg G Karting

    Jul 5, 2003
    157
    northern New Jersey
    As writerguy said... Id be more concerned abt the azz ugly interior, moreso than its morbid history.

    re-skin the seats then you dont even have to worry what fluids drained out of the corpse. Heres your pic nonetheless...
     
  24. Bimmerista

    Bimmerista Karting

    Feb 7, 2004
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    Carrollton, TX
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    Mike
    I wonder what kind of "mode" in was put in with the car. Was he at a stop light, driving, shifting gears, etc....

    BTW...the rims & the McD interior is too trashy for my taste let alone the grusome plot of a history the car has. IMO, I'd rather take a new Porsche 911 Turbo over this & not worry about anything scary when I sleep at night.
     
  25. tubeguy

    tubeguy Karting

    May 21, 2003
    96
    Upland California
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    Kevin Deal
    The whole thing of him being on display in that car makes me laugh or get sick. Here I go judging the hip-hop crowd.

    The I realized this. I have a 1958 Isetta in tasteful Kawasaki green...and have told people...half-serious...I want to be buried in it. ****.

    So I am no different than the hip-hop dude. Plus...if someone took me seriously...they may do it
     

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